Sonic322 Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 yey I actually use no anti-virus and haven't had any virus-inflicted problems. (yes, on windows) You are a mad man, an extremely mad, mad man on an unrelated note I use Avast and Malwarebytes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockmoddeR Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 I use MBAM for scanning after I've been around looking for games/tools/programs on the web, and common sense for my firewall. Seriously, I have like, 5 sites only that I browse regularly, and I almost NEVER get any form of spyware. (which I've only had about 5 instances on my machine in its 10 month lifetime) I've actually gone 6 straight months without a virus or form of malicious software on my machine. Sadly, the same can HARDLY be said for the family computer. Sometimes I think they get it infected just to keep me occupied... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karsten Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 Kaspersky, but it's not freeware i got a free copy of it with my rampage 3 extreme motherbord from asus :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 Kaspersky. Chunk will start with Panda or Kaspersky and then transfer over to a scratch built system consisting of a firewall with a second line counter hack should the firewall be breached and a anti viral program. Now why can we actively defend our homes (i.e. with a gun), but not do the same with our computers? Also, Linux yey I actually use no anti-virus and haven't had any virus-inflicted problems. (yes, on windows) Or you haven't triggered one yet. Some lie in wait for a keystroke or date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cirevam Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 Now why can we actively defend our homes (i.e. with a gun), but not do the same with our computers? This makes no sense. Anti-virus programs are made so people don't have to defend their computers themselves. It's like installing a home security system. Finding and eradicating viruses yourself is like defending yourself with a gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 Its called CompaQ. /topic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexpanter Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 Its called CompaQ. /topic Eh?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 Now why can we actively defend our homes (i.e. with a gun), but not do the same with our computers? This makes no sense. Anti-virus programs are made so people don't have to defend their computers themselves. It's like installing a home security system. Finding and eradicating viruses yourself is like defending yourself with a gun. The counter-hack program was what I was talking about, they're illegal because some make the hackers house burn to the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amauros Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 Any anti-virus, anti-malware, anti-anything program that prevents unauthorized access to your computer is a counter-hack program. If you're talking about a live living person actively trying to hack your computer using alternative methods (such as remote access), this is still treated as unauthorized access to your computer and is blocked by any good anti-malware program (such as Avast ). I don't see how you get the idea that anti-hack systems are "illegal." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 Any anti-virus, anti-malware, anti-anything program that prevents unauthorized access to your computer is a counter-hack program. If you're talking about a live living person actively trying to hack your computer using alternative methods (such as remote access), this is still treated as unauthorized access to your computer and is blocked by any good anti-malware program (such as Avast ). I don't see how you get the idea that anti-hack systems are "illegal." MOST cause destruction of property. It meant as a last line of defense against Chinese hackers. I'll probably include special threads just for the Chinese because Cybercommand is currently unable to to deal with them thanks to legislature and someone needs to theach them a lesson. It'll just backtrace and if it lands in China, it'll erase the hacker's drive and and anything else it can erase. Otherwise, the punishment is just a shutdown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amauros Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 Ah I see what you mean now. You mean counter-hack as in hacking the hacker. That's like stealing from a theif; two wrongs don't make a right. Therefore counter-hacking is just as illegal as general hacking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tauka Usanake Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 Ah I see what you mean now. You mean counter-hack as in hacking the hacker. That's like stealing from a theif; two wrongs don't make a right. Therefore counter-hacking is just as illegal as general hacking. I don't know, I would kind of follow that. If I could I would counter-hack as a defense to show them not to mess with me. I wish I could do that... I use Webroot on my old laptop and have Microsoft Security Essentials on here. I use McAfee Site Advisor toolbar on both of them. So far nothing bad and even if I did find a virus I know how to find them manually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 Let me show you how much of a problem the Chinese are: For fifteen (15!) minutes, all DoD traffic was rerouted through Chinese severs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonic322 Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 Let me show you how much of a problem the Chinese are: For fifteen (15!) minutes, all DoD traffic was rerouted through Chinese severs. ... China is evil. Here are a few thing I understand about China" They are a comunist country. They make a lot of things. (And use poisonous paint in the process.) They own most of Americas debt. They can't afford the things they make. This is just a hypothetical question but, why don't we (America) invade China? It looks like they could use the help at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDoctor Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 They own most of Americas debt. When you say "most" meaning about $250 million, then sure. Not sure of the correctness of that statement. China owns $250 million worth of the US, debt I'm not totally sure of. This is just a hypothetical question but, why don't we (America) invade China? Maybe because of the: Political repercussions Utter randomness of the act Trying to get congress to sign a deceleration of war The people's response The economic effects Crapstorm from the rest of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amauros Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 Let me show you how much of a problem the Chinese are: For fifteen (15!) minutes, all DoD traffic was rerouted through Chinese severs. That still doesn't justify counter-hacking them. 1. China is evil. Here are a few thing I understand about China" 2. They are a comunist country. 3. They make a lot of things. (And use poisonous paint in the process.) 4. They own most of Americas debt. 5. They can't afford the things they make. 6. This is just a hypothetical question but, why don't we (America) invade China? 1. As if the rest of the world isn't? 2. This is a good thing. China has a ridiculously large population and without their socialistic dominion, their population would skyrocket and ultimately cause China to starve itself and become a plague to the south-east Asia region (due to the massive increase in death rates). 3. They make what they can with what they can, they have a very small market to work with (in comparison to the amount of people that work). 4. Not true. America is in debt because of government spending, not the Chinese consumer products that the average American people purchase. 5. What evidence do you have of that? 6. Because conventionally we would lose. The only way we'd win a war with China is through nuclear weapons, which are of course politically out of the question. -------------------------------- Furthermore, both you and TMLC take this somewhere else. If you want to talk about China, do so in some other forum. If you want to talk about whether counter-hacking should/shouldn't be illegal, do so in some other forum. This topic is about anti-malware programs, not counter-hacking or China or anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 This is just a hypothetical question but, why don't we (America) invade China? Maybe because of the: Political repercussions Utter randomness of the act Trying to get congress to sign a deceleration of war The people's response The economic effects Crapstorm from the rest of the world. And they have nuclear weapons. Let me show you how much of a problem the Chinese are: For fifteen (15!) minutes, all DoD traffic was rerouted through Chinese severs. ... They own most of Americas debt. The Ben Bernake has almost ALL of our debt, which at last count 117 trillion! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaider Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 I use Avast Free edition. Norton is probably one of the worst AV programs out there. I've never understood how it became so popular. Maybe it was good at some point in time...I dunno...I had Norton 360 back a few years ago, and it was awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaider Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 Wow. Major here huh guys? -.- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cirevam Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 Okay guys, Doctor is right. Let's make a new topic discussing the financial problems of the US (completely ignoring the massive deficit incurred during WWII and the surplus in the 90's). This topic is about anti-virus stuff. Money has nothing to do with protecting your computer. Link to US financial topic: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 Ah I see what you mean now. You mean counter-hack as in hacking the hacker. That's like stealing from a theif; two wrongs don't make a right. Therefore counter-hacking is just as illegal as general hacking. Or stoping the hacker from stealing in the first place. <Dying sub topic: counter hacking> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amauros Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 Ah I see what you mean now. You mean counter-hack as in hacking the hacker. That's like stealing from a theif; two wrongs don't make a right. Therefore counter-hacking is just as illegal as general hacking. Or stoping the hacker from stealing in the first place. <Dying sub topic: counter hacking> That's what Avast is for, stopping hackers from stealing in the first place. That's perfectly legal and pretty much standard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 Alas, it can probably can't stop the most determined ones, and it's those I'm worried about. All it needs to do is compare what the request was to the response, if they don't match(i.e. I asked for a .bmp but got a ,exe), shutdown. External requests get the same thing, shutting down the offending computer there by preventing further attack. Webspiders could become a problem under this system. Now can we drop the subject? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amauros Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 You're either extremely paranoid for no reason at all... or you're paranoid because you spend too much time on sites you shouldn't have been to in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 Or because I'm on Cirevam's watchlist and we lost to many computers to hackers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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