TheEPICtrainrider Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 I had a idea to make a RRs style train, but I need more ideas. so far I got.... It's a steam locomotive with heat supplied the energy crystals can pull up to 7 gondolas that can carry up too 200 energy crystals each has chain saw drills that can drill through rubble from landslides runs on power path like tracks with rails in them (sortal like the type you see at rail road croosings. and is a mogul, (if you look at it from the side it has one small wheel and 3 big ones) lastly is narrow gauge, If it was in the game it would have a turn radius of 4 boxes and is more or less for the long distance transportation of energy crystals and ore by that I mean the small transport trucks dump Energy crystals and ore into the gondolas to be taken back to base. so... what do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cirevam Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 It could work in missions that were designed to fit the train, or if you couldn't move your Tool Store and had to transport crystals over scale miles just to deposit them. Unfortunately, it's much more convenient in LRR to just build a Power Station and Tool Store next to your mining operations. I could see it happening if we could disable the construction of buildings during certain levels and made the cavern huge, then just supply the train right from the beginning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow322 Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 If there was a online, multy player, OpenRR game in the future then the maps would need to be GIGANTIC!!!!! So ya the train would work in that, but I think it mite be a fail for LRR. sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEPICtrainrider Posted September 17, 2009 Author Share Posted September 17, 2009 I knew it wouldn't work, just throwing ideas around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEPICtrainrider Posted December 13, 2009 Author Share Posted December 13, 2009 Okay, at the risk of spamming, I'm bumping this topic to discuss the hypothetical advantages and disadvantages of having a train in the universe RR. So yes. The main advantage of this train is that it could be able to transport ore and EC's from anywhere along the line, as well as mass transport vehicles and remove RR from a area if the teleporter fails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonymouse Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 The disadvantage is that you have to lay rails, and it's not fast at accelerating, and terrible at turning corners, which makes wheeled vehicles running on plain ground the much better choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEPICtrainrider Posted December 13, 2009 Author Share Posted December 13, 2009 The disadvantage is that you have to lay rails, and it's not fast at accelerating, and terrible at turning corners, which makes wheeled vehicles running on plain ground the much better choice. Rails only cost about 4 ore a piece, it is fast after 10 squares, And turning corners isn't really too bad, but this is long distance transportation. And wheeled vehicles can't carry very much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonymouse Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 Long-distance STRAIGHT tracks. You're not likely to find a long, straight natural cave or pattern of weaker rock. Trains are unsuitable for underground unless you artificially make a straight tunnel, which is impossible in RR due to solid rock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEPICtrainrider Posted December 13, 2009 Author Share Posted December 13, 2009 Long-distance STRAIGHT tracks. You're not likely to find a long, straight natural cave or pattern of weaker rock. Trains are unsuitable for underground unless you artificially make a straight tunnel, which is impossible in RR due to solid rock. Actually there would be some wiggle room, the tracks would be able to 'shift' from one row to another (not in the game, but in the universe) and could dodge small patches of solid rock. And where ever it can't get to, the transport trucks would be able to bring the load to the track, and the train takes it most of the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonymouse Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 I still don't agree with this... *GTFO's* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEPICtrainrider Posted December 13, 2009 Author Share Posted December 13, 2009 I still don't agree with this... *GTFO's* You only say that because I'm right. Trains would be a good addition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonymouse Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 You only say that because I'm right. Trains would be a good addition. OK, that does it *GTFBI's* No, they wouldn't! RR is a game where you exploit weak rock, not just force your way through anything. That makes it impossible to get a straight track for a long distance, because the natural formations force you to make turns. A train would have to slow down almost to a stop in a turn to avoid getting derailed, so it's too inefficient. If you really have such long distances ingame, building another base would be much quicker. In short, IRL, minecarts: Yes. In RR: NO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEPICtrainrider Posted December 13, 2009 Author Share Posted December 13, 2009 OK, that does it *GTFBI's* No, they wouldn't! RR is a game where you exploit weak rock, not just force your way through anything. That makes it impossible to get a straight track for a long distance, because the natural formations force you to make turns. A train would have to slow down almost to a stop in a turn to avoid getting derailed, so it's too inefficient. If you really have such long distances ingame, building another base would be much quicker. In short, IRL, minecarts: Yes. In RR: NO. What you are saying is like using a chrome crusher on driller night, which is not what the rail road would be used for (building one for small levels). Like shadow said, it would only be practical in large mining operations. So you would build a railroad if you were going to drill rock 'miles' from your base. The rail road could be used to transport the ore, energy crystals, and barricades needed to build a base, as well as RR to get there quickly and also other things. The hoover dam was built using a rail road. Also, the rail road could be a 'life line' if a base needs more RR and you can't teleport them down. The Track would be narrow gauge, and it could make tight curves easily. The locomotive would only have to slow down to about 35 mph or even less (estimations) and could still stay on the track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonymouse Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 What you are saying is like using a chrome crusher on driller night, which is not what the rail road would be used for (building one for small levels). Like shadow said, it would only be practical in large mining operations. So you would build a railroad if you were going to drill rock 'miles' from your base. The rail road could be used to transport the ore, energy crystals, and barricades needed to build a base, as well as RR to get there quickly and also other things. The hoover dam was built using a rail road. Also, the rail road could be a 'life line' if a base needs more RR and you can't teleport them down. The Track would be narrow gauge, and it could make tight curves easily. The locomotive would only have to slow down to about 35 mph or even less (estimations) and could still stay on the track. RR != RL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cirevam Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 The Hoover Dam was built ABOVE ground, so that's an invalid argument. The cost and time it would take to prepare a train and its tracks in LRR would never be worth it unless you were trying to collect 500 crystals from one end of Rocky Horror to another. And even then, a few upgraded Small Transport Trucks can do the job just as well. And there's another point... LRR has small self-propelled cargo vehicles, so minecarts and trains are OBSOLETE. There's no point in laying down tons of tracks because you still have to get Rock Raiders to build them or you have to teleport them down yourself, the train still has to be built or brought down, and you have to put the huge amount of crystals onto the train which can take a long time if there are hundreds of crystals, and then you have to wait for its slow butt to haul the load back to base, then you have to unload which takes even more time. You're just looking for a vague reason to put a full-sized train into a mine shaft. I'm pretty sure that this has never happened in all of human history, and for good reason. We'd be better off making a Large Transport Truck that can carry... I dunno, 20 crystals when it's upgraded, and can deliver them at a decent speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonymouse Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 The Hoover Dam was built ABOVE ground, so that's an invalid argument. The cost and time it would take to prepare a train and its tracks in LRR would never be worth it unless you were trying to collect 500 crystals from one end of Rocky Horror to another. And even then, a few upgraded Small Transport Trucks can do the job just as well. And there's another point... LRR has small self-propelled cargo vehicles, so minecarts and trains are OBSOLETE. There's no point in laying down tons of tracks because you still have to get Rock Raiders to build them or you have to teleport them down yourself, the train still has to be built or brought down, and you have to put the huge amount of crystals onto the train which can take a long time if there are hundreds of crystals, and then you have to wait for its slow butt to haul the load back to base, then you have to unload which takes even more time. You're just looking for a vague reason to put a full-sized train into a mine shaft. I'm pretty sure that this has never happened in all of human history, and for good reason. We'd be better off making a Large Transport Truck that can carry... I dunno, 20 crystals when it's upgraded, and can deliver them at a decent speed. YES! all the point I was trying to make in one post. About the third paragraph, the Tunnel Transport *should* be able to do this. Just that nobody's (bothered to get?) got the mod working yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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