Amauros Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 Actually neither. Some of the current methods being used to detect neutrinos use liquid water or liquid heavy water and photosensors that detect the light emitted when neutrinos make contact... or liquid chlorine or galium, which turn into argon or germanium (respectively) after interaction with neutrinos... then there's other newer methods such as thermoaccoustic-detection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snow Miser Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 On 3/1/2011 at 5:17 AM, Amauros said: Actually neither. Some of the current methods being used to detect neutrinos use liquid water or liquid heavy water and photosensors that detect the light emitted when neutrinos make contact... or liquid chlorine or galium, which turn into argon or germanium (respectively) after interaction with neutrinos... then there's other newer methods such as thermoaccoustic-detection. Very interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the dude Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 Dilithium!!!!!! http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/Dilithium STAR TREK RULES!!! No, seriosly, they look kinda the same... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snow Miser Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 On 3/5/2011 at 6:52 PM, the dude said: Dilithium!!!!!! http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/Dilithium STAR TREK RULES!!! No, seriosly, they look kinda the same... Holy cow, you're right! =P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 Let's stick with REAL physics here, shall we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonic322 Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 On 3/5/2011 at 10:12 PM, Tracked Mbl Lsr Cttr said: Let's stick with REAL physics here, shall we? We are talking about a game whose only form of "REAL physics" was gravity and that was shaky at best. The least we could do is keep an open mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snow Miser Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 On 3/6/2011 at 12:45 AM, Sonic322 said: On 3/5/2011 at 10:12 PM, Tracked Mbl Lsr Cttr said: Let's stick with REAL physics here, shall we? We are talking about a game whose only form of "REAL physics" was gravity and that was shaky at best. The least we could do is keep an open mind. I was kidding with my " holy cow, you're right," although under further consideration, I do admit it is is perfectly plausible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 On 3/6/2011 at 1:32 AM, Snow Miser said: On 3/6/2011 at 12:45 AM, Sonic322 said: On 3/5/2011 at 10:12 PM, Tracked Mbl Lsr Cttr said: Let's stick with REAL physics here, shall we? We are talking about a game whose only form of "REAL physics" was gravity and that was shaky at best. The least we could do is keep an open mind. I was kidding with my " holy cow, you're right," although under further consideration, I do admit it is is perfectly plausible. Well hold your horses, we haven't reached the island of stability yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snow Miser Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 On 3/6/2011 at 1:43 AM, Tracked Mbl Lsr Cttr said: On 3/6/2011 at 1:32 AM, Snow Miser said: On 3/6/2011 at 12:45 AM, Sonic322 said: On 3/5/2011 at 10:12 PM, Tracked Mbl Lsr Cttr said: Let's stick with REAL physics here, shall we? We are talking about a game whose only form of "REAL physics" was gravity and that was shaky at best. The least we could do is keep an open mind. I was kidding with my " holy cow, you're right," although under further consideration, I do admit it is is perfectly plausible. Well hold your horses, we haven't reached the island of stability yet. Haha, I love being new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 On 3/6/2011 at 1:49 AM, Snow Miser said: On 3/6/2011 at 1:43 AM, Tracked Mbl Lsr Cttr said: On 3/6/2011 at 1:32 AM, Snow Miser said: On 3/6/2011 at 12:45 AM, Sonic322 said: On 3/5/2011 at 10:12 PM, Tracked Mbl Lsr Cttr said: Let's stick with REAL physics here, shall we? We are talking about a game whose only form of "REAL physics" was gravity and that was shaky at best. The least we could do is keep an open mind. I was kidding with my " holy cow, you're right," although under further consideration, I do admit it is is perfectly plausible. Well hold your horses, we haven't reached the island of stability yet. Haha, I love being new. I was talking about super-heavy nuclides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snow Miser Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 On 3/6/2011 at 1:53 AM, Tracked Mbl Lsr Cttr said: On 3/6/2011 at 1:49 AM, Snow Miser said: On 3/6/2011 at 1:43 AM, Tracked Mbl Lsr Cttr said: On 3/6/2011 at 1:32 AM, Snow Miser said: On 3/6/2011 at 12:45 AM, Sonic322 said: On 3/5/2011 at 10:12 PM, Tracked Mbl Lsr Cttr said: Let's stick with REAL physics here, shall we? We are talking about a game whose only form of "REAL physics" was gravity and that was shaky at best. The least we could do is keep an open mind. I was kidding with my " holy cow, you're right," although under further consideration, I do admit it is is perfectly plausible. Well hold your horses, we haven't reached the island of stability yet. Haha, I love being new. I was talking about super-heavy nuclides. OH THAT MAKES MORE SENSE. Haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 Okay, why don't we start from square one under the assumption that Brickonium can be a real mineral. (Finding a way to make it work is the purpose of this exercise. That is why we are bothering, right?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonic322 Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 On 9/22/2011 at 6:49 PM, Tracker said: Okay, why don't we start from square one under the assumption that Brickonium can be a real mineral. (Finding a way to make it work is the purpose of this exercise. That is why we are bothering, right?) No This topic is about discussing how Energy Crystals are formed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lair Posted September 22, 2011 Author Share Posted September 22, 2011 On 9/22/2011 at 7:12 PM, Sonic322 said: On 9/22/2011 at 6:49 PM, Tracker said: Okay, why don't we start from square one under the assumption that Brickonium can be a real mineral. (Finding a way to make it work is the purpose of this exercise. That is why we are bothering, right?) No This topic is about discussing how Energy Crystals are formed. That's what Tracker was talking about? Although he hasn't participated in the discussion of formation yet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 The Crystals are formed by well documented processes that form other rocks and minerals, such as quartz, gypsum, pyrite, garnet, wolframite, and beryl. This is evidenced by their shape and their tendency to appear in seams (the same applies to Ore). The next, more important question is what could they be made of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenyx Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 It's really hard to explain without any hard Sci-Fi equivalents. Closest thing I can think of to an energy crystal (Non-radioactive but highly energetic) is a Zero Point Module from Stargate, and those are artificial. Keep in mind I have not watched Dr. Who or Star Trek (the former never really appealed to me and I feel the latter isn't exactly well thought out), and my Sci-Fi knowlage is in fact limited to Stargate, Star Wars (Limited on this one), H.G. Wells, Portal and Warhammer 40,000 as well as basic Sci-Fi themes. On 10/9/2009 at 11:39 PM, InADarkMirror said: Also, the more I think about it, the more I figure Energy Crystals are useful through a combination of heritho-undiscovered harmless harmless radiation and the ships generators using some sort of Mass-to-Energy conversion engine. That wouldn't make sense as if the crystals were converted into energy, wouldn't they be consumed? On 11/8/2009 at 9:53 PM, TheDoctor said: On 11/8/2009 at 8:57 PM, theEPICtr said: Well they wouldn't be pin-drop quiet, they would make some noise at least. I say that the reason it costs more EC's for a hoverscout then to power a building, is because they teleport it down. The EC's could just be used to operate the teleporter to get it own to the planet. But when you tele it back, the number of crystals you used are returned to you. Out of context game mechanic. All RTS games have them to balance the game. I'd assume that being able to teleport down an infinite number of Chrome Crushers, Loader Dozers and STTs would be game breaking. On 2/28/2011 at 4:54 AM, Amauros said: Well I like how your idea is similar to mine in that neutrinos are the source of an energy crystal's innate power. Neutrinos actually give off harmful radiation (they aren't WIMPs however, that's a form of dark matter). Neutrons don't have a charge. Protons wouldn't give enough energy. I think we're thinking in the wrong direction. Maybe instead of lighter, smaller particles energizing an otherwise inert object, we should look at the crystal as being made of a super-heavy element within the stable island of the 120s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lair Posted September 23, 2011 Author Share Posted September 23, 2011 On 9/23/2011 at 1:37 AM, 40KEndraider said: Maybe instead of lighter, smaller particles energizing an otherwise inert object, we should look at the crystal as being made of a super-heavy element within the stable island of the 120s. But Brickonium is very light. Watch the cutscenes, like LavaJug1. Docs picks up the Brickonium as if it were nothing, and juggles them. They also make a strange resonating sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 Try Induced gamma emission. There may be a "stable" nuclear isomer that "holds" more than one photon, forcing it to stay together, even after releasing a large amount of energy. Given the amount of energy it would emit, a very low percentage could be enough to charge a laser a few times. An isomer of hafnium has been found to give you a gamma ray when you give it an x-ray. If it held together, there is the chance you would be able to "recharge" it. And it takes lots and lots of photons to cause harm, so if this isomer is easy to excite, you could hold the crystal with out getting burned. They could be something like silicon carbonate with inclusions, both metallic (assuming this element is a metal) and organic. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olivine LOOK AT THAT COLOR! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autunite Uranyl, gotta love it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uranium_glass What the... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluorescence#Gemology.2C_mineralogy.2C_geology_and_forensics Oil lights up if you give it an x-ray? Anyways, enjoy the light show! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cirevam Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Wow, olivine really looks like brickonium, and it exists primarily underground and it degrades on the surface. This seems like a good real-world equivalent, at least in looks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenyx Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 On 9/23/2011 at 9:34 PM, Lair of Rockwhales said: On 9/23/2011 at 1:37 AM, 40KEndraider said: Maybe instead of lighter, smaller particles energizing an otherwise inert object, we should look at the crystal as being made of a super-heavy element within the stable island of the 120s. But Brickonium is very light. Watch the cutscenes, like LavaJug1. Docs picks up the Brickonium as if it were nothing, and juggles them. They also make a strange resonating sound. Just because something has a super-heavy element in it doesn't mean it has to be heavy itself. It may just contain Element 120 or so in small quantities within it's molecular structure. On 9/23/2011 at 11:06 PM, Tracker said: Try Induced gamma emission. There may be a "stable" nuclear isomer that "holds" more than one photon, forcing it to stay together, even after releasing a large amount of energy. Given the amount of energy it would emit, a very low percentage could be enough to charge a laser a few times. An isomer of hafnium has been found to give you a gamma ray when you give it an x-ray. If it held together, there is the chance you would be able to "recharge" it. And it takes lots and lots of photons to cause harm, so if this isomer is easy to excite, you could hold the crystal with out getting burned. They could be something like silicon carbonate with inclusions, both metallic (assuming this element is a metal) and organic. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olivine LOOK AT THAT COLOR! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autunite Uranyl, gotta love it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uranium_glass What the... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluorescence#Gemology.2C_mineralogy.2C_geology_and_forensics Oil lights up if you give it an x-ray? Anyways, enjoy the light show! Uranium Glass doesn't seem likely, again because it's not naturally forming. Autunite doesn't seem to have the proper structure, it's more like mica but more solid. Olivine seems to be the most likely host for a Halfnium Isomer (Isotope?) in context due to it's structure, although Autunite seems like it could contain more Halfnium if it isn't bound to the molecules of the crystal itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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