le717 Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 Maybe. But we cannot mod the tracks yet as origamiguy hasn't written a convertor. Whenever he gets around it it, we just might be able to add back this and the Knightmare-Athon shortcuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modded Lego Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 COOL! :love: I can't wait. That way we could have those shortcuts and that would make the game twice as better! :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonic322 Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Now wait a moment. They put these things in the block these shortcuts off but removing them to get to the shortcuts might have some problems. Like what it they removed those segments of the track that make up those shortcuts? You would drive into them thinking you could use them and fall off the map. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lair Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 On 2/21/2012 at 2:45 AM, Sonic322 said: Now wait a moment. They put these things in the block these shortcuts off but removing them to get to the shortcuts might have some problems. Like what it they removed those segments of the track that make up those shortcuts? You would drive into them thinking you could use them and fall off the map. Which is exactly why they blocked it off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonic322 Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 On 2/21/2012 at 2:51 AM, Lair of Rockwhales said: On 2/21/2012 at 2:45 AM, Sonic322 said: Now wait a moment. They put these things in the block these shortcuts off but removing them to get to the shortcuts might have some problems. Like what it they removed those segments of the track that make up those shortcuts? You would drive into them thinking you could use them and fall off the map. Which is exactly why they blocked it off. Wait you actually agreed with me? I didn't expect that at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyrem Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 On 2/21/2012 at 5:05 AM, Sonic322 said: On 2/21/2012 at 2:51 AM, Lair of Rockwhales said: On 2/21/2012 at 2:45 AM, Sonic322 said: Now wait a moment. They put these things in the block these shortcuts off but removing them to get to the shortcuts might have some problems. Like what it they removed those segments of the track that make up those shortcuts? You would drive into them thinking you could use them and fall off the map. Which is exactly why they blocked it off. Wait you actually agreed with me? I didn't expect that at all. You didn't expect him to agree with an obvious fact? They were blocked because they didn't want those shortcuts anymore regardless of whether the geometry was still there for them. If the geometry was removed, you'd fall off the map... or at least float on a plane(no not the winged one) depending on how the game was written. Lair 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegoEssence Posted February 22, 2012 Author Share Posted February 22, 2012 True, there doesn't seem to be anything there anymore besides the blocks. Now if we were able to actually re-make the shortcuts ourselves... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dead_name Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 On 2/21/2012 at 11:11 AM, Cyrem said: If the geometry was removed, you'd fall off the map... or at least float on a plane(no not the winged one) depending on how the game was written. You'd fall through the map. I know it's got horizontal out-of-bounds detection which spawns you back on the track if you leave the area, but I'm not sure if it has any vertical out-of-bounds detection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonic322 Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 On 2/22/2012 at 6:46 PM, origamiguy said: On 2/21/2012 at 11:11 AM, Cyrem said: If the geometry was removed, you'd fall off the map... or at least float on a plane(no not the winged one) depending on how the game was written. You'd fall through the map. I know it's got horizontal out-of-bounds detection which spawns you back on the track if you leave the area, but I'm not sure if it has any vertical out-of-bounds detection. Is there a way to check what detection methods the game uses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Eight-Three-One Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 Looking at the evidence for the removed short-cut, it seems to have been removed due to time constraints, since it has little planned beyond pointless power ups. Also, thanks to the Cutting Room Floor, I'm now irritated at the misuse of the word "beta" >_> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonic322 Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 On 2/22/2012 at 6:46 PM, origamiguy said: On 2/21/2012 at 11:11 AM, Cyrem said: If the geometry was removed, you'd fall off the map... or at least float on a plane(no not the winged one) depending on how the game was written. You'd fall through the map. I know it's got horizontal out-of-bounds detection which spawns you back on the track if you leave the area, but I'm not sure if it has any vertical out-of-bounds detection. It does have vertical out-of-bounds detection. Go watch the video in the first post starting at 1:25. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow322 Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 I don't have lego Racer, but where can I find the cut Knightmare-Athon shortcuts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modded Lego Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 yeah where's the post about the lego racers knightmare athon shortcuts? I would really want to read about those. :0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow322 Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 On 2/25/2012 at 12:23 AM, Shadow322 said: I don't have lego Racer, but where can I find the cut Knightmare-Athon shortcuts? This again, someone answer my question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
le717 Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 On 2/25/2012 at 12:23 AM, Shadow322 said: I don't have lego Racer, but where can I find the cut Knightmare-Athon shortcuts? If by find them in-game, you won't unless you have a copy of the game, extract the JAM, get the GDB Viewer and enable the power-ups, and checkpoints, and view the Knightmare-Athon track. But since you don't have a copy, you can watch my video on it: http://youtu.be/IcQBamdTANo Or if by find them you mean actually race in the shortcuts, you can't. They were removed in the beta, and there is not (and probably never will be) a beta for fans to play. And added them in with modding may be impossible, thanks to how the game is coded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow322 Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 Wow, that is some really, REALLY poor editing on the developers part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modded Lego Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 I agree, you would think that they would make it less noticeable by taking out the checkpoints and the power bricks. :gasp: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
le717 Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 I'll say that. But the thing is, that video is from a 2001 version, and that version removed the running-without-JAM development feature, among other things. If they were removing development stuff, you think they would have removed the checkpoints and power-ups too, but they didn't, just as they did with Pirate Skull Pass (which is the topic of this topic): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_GxFOpgOb0 Modded Lego 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modded Lego Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 Yeah and guess what, even the 1999 version has the checkpoints and powerups still there. I checked it with origamiguy's viewer. I agree with you, i think that they should have removed this but diddn't for some reason. Must have been lazy. :af: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Eight-Three-One Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 It was probably a last-minute decision, while the game was in its beta stage (the one where they do all the last-minute testing before releasing it). Several prototype shots show that it got very close to complete before it was scrapped. Thus, they probably lost the time to take out everything, and they didn't really feel like fiddling with it. I doubt the guys who reissued the game in 2001 felt like fooling with it again, so they just didn't bother. Besides, none of us would have even known the checkpoints existed had it not been for modding. That's not something you're supposed to know even exists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modded Lego Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 true. But I would have removed it if I would have made the game. But I wold have also made it easier to mod things. Because modding is auesome! :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Eight-Three-One Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Go back to the year 1999 and try to tell one of the developers that a bunch of teenagers will uncover everything a decade later, so they should make it easy to mod. Then tell me the kind of response you get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modded Lego Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 HAAAAAHAAAHAHAHA! Thats funny! Yeah i guess your right, it's a nice thought but it will never happen. But I think that it's better to work for our modding. :E Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cirevam Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Some developers give out development kits so that people that play their games can mod them easily. It's good for the developer because more people are likely to buy the game if they know they can make their own fun with it. Modded Lego 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modded Lego Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 REALLY! Do you know if they made one for LEGO Racers 1 or 2!? :?: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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