Drill Master Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 Ok. Say a huge battle took place between all things Halo, and all things Star Wars (this includes ships, enemies, types of troops, etc). Which side to YOU think should win? Please give details as to why you voted for either side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lair Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 You're comparing a video game to a movie? And who specifically? In Star Wars, do you mean the rebels? Empire? Republic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drill Master Posted August 10, 2012 Author Share Posted August 10, 2012 You're comparing a video game to a movie? And who specifically? In Star Wars, do you mean the rebels? Empire? Republic? I'm comparing Everything about both sides, not just the game and not just the movies. Basically which side do you think is more powerful in weapons, vehicles, which enemy is better, stuff like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lair Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 You're comparing a video game to a movie? And who specifically? In Star Wars, do you mean the rebels? Empire? Republic? I'm comparing Everything about both sides, not just the game and not just the movies. Basically which side do you think is more powerful in weapons, vehicles, which enemy is better, stuff like that. Well...I don't know anything about Halo, so I can't compare. Fluffy Cupcake 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephyria Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 They're both franchises that are used purely for moneywhoring by this point. /thread Lair, STUDZ, McJobless and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antillies Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 They're completely different realities with their own very individualized aesthetic. I would never compare the two but in a military conflict the Empire easily brushes even a combined force of UNSC and Covenant away. STUDZ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STUDZ Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 Well, this is tough... Star Wars takes place "A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away" (In other words: George Lucas' mind). Whereas HALO takes place around 2550 AD, right here and some undisclosed distance all around the universe. One focuses supernatural powers (The Force), while the other is primarily military power. SO... The Force or Al Qaeda The Covenant? Then again, I have a feeling that Jar Jar Binks will destroy the whole freaking Covenant force in one klutzy move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McJobless Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 The Empire has a giant ball with a single laser that takes about 5 seconds to destroy a planet. The Covenant had an array of 7 giant rings which destroy the entire galaxy in a few micro-seconds, according to the Halo Universe book I have. Star Wars has a kid who knows how to use a sword and throw things at people, and works cooperatively with an old dude who dies and then just makes a bunch of duologues. Halo has a soldier who knows how to use a vast array of weapons, vehicles, alien technology and works cooperatively with an AI which could theoretically take over multiple entire Covenant ships if they were linked. Star Wars has a black dude who can hit on ladies, owns a mining station and a dude with some weird head brace. Halo has a black dude who can hit on ladies, survived being attacked by flood multiple times and is PURE badass. I don't see Lando delivering a speech 10% as inspiring as Johnsons. The "first" Star Wars was about an emo dude with two red swords stuck together with glue fighting off two other dudes with swords who were trying to fix the economy of a not-very-important planet. The "first" Halo was about an alien armada glassing an entire planet, but a bunch of amazing super-soldiers returned fire and where able to evac everyone to safety before pitching their entries in the noblest death competition. Halo wins. P.S: You should turn off the "multiple choice" option in the poll. It's one or the other, not choose as many as you want. Drill Master 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antillies Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 The Empire has a giant ball with a single laser that takes about 5 seconds to destroy a planet. The Covenant had an array of 7 giant rings which destroy the entire galaxy in a few micro-seconds, according to the Halo Universe book I have. Firstly, the Empire's strength is hardly eclipsed by a single Death Star. The Imperial Starfleet is far superior. Secondly, the "rings" aren't even a Covenant possession, highlighted most laughably by the fact that a single UNSC cruiser was able to outrun quite a few Covenant ships and cause havoc for them on its surface. Additionally, the "rings" can only be factored into a military equation if the Covenant wish to proceed with extinguishing themselves as well as everyone else. While their religious doctrine may profess the positives of the "cleansing," I think most of the prophets would personally say otherwise. Star Wars has a kid who knows how to use a sword and throw things at people, and works cooperatively with an old dude who dies and then just makes a bunch of duologues. Halo has a soldier who knows how to use a vast array of weapons, vehicles, alien technology and works cooperatively with an AI which could theoretically take over multiple entire Covenant ships if they were linked. The "first" Star Wars was about an emo dude with two red swords stuck together with glue fighting off two other dudes with swords who were trying to fix the economy of a not-very-important planet. The "first" Halo was about an alien armada glassing an entire planet, but a bunch of amazing super-soldiers returned fire and where able to evac everyone to safety before pitching their entries in the noblest death competition. I'm not going to respond to your hyperbolic argument here but I kow you know that either could be summarized in a way that portrays it in a bad light. Star Wars has a black dude who can hit on ladies, owns a mining station and a dude with some weird head brace. Halo has a black dude who can hit on ladies, survived being attacked by flood multiple times and is PURE badass. I don't see Lando delivering a speech 10% as inspiring as Johnsons. You're downplaying Lando's accomplishments but more so you're ignoring that they're completely different people and fit into different archetypal roles. Yup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephyria Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 You all forget. Star wars has StarKiller. The most OP character in star wars canon ever. Hell, you're forgetting the entire EU altogether. Boba Fett managed to escape the Sarlacc. Alive. Plenty of badasses on the SW team STUDZ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antillies Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 You all forget. Star wars has StarKiller. The most OP character in star wars canon ever. In shades of canonocity, the whole FU-spawned story is quite near the bottom... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephyria Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 You all forget. Star wars has StarKiller. The most OP character in star wars canon ever. In shades of canonocity, the whole FU-spawned story is quite near the bottom... It's actually the opposite. TFU is level 2 canon. Which is one below G-Canon, which are the movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McJobless Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 Halo has Sgt. Forge. 'nuff said. Also, the Arbiter in Wars is significantly more amazing than any Sith character in Star Wars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephyria Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 If I could wade through the mass of millions of disembodied octopi tentacles that represents the SWEU, I could probably find somebody even more Amazing and Badass. But that would take years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McJobless Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 So, you have to go through so much extended fiction to find one amazing character, while I can pull out any character from Halo and prove they're more amazing than all the Star Wars characters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephyria Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 I know Han solo took a few Badass levels in the NJO series, but that's cause I had all 19books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lair Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 any character from Halo and prove they're more amazing than all the Star Wars characters. How can a character from a shooting game be better than a character from a movie? Zephyria and STUDZ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antillies Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 It's actually the opposite. TFU is level 2 canon. Which is one below G-Canon, which are the movies. Haha, nice try but no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephyria Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 any character from Halo and prove they're more amazing than all the Star Wars characters. How can a character from a shooting game be better than a character from a movie? Most shooters are pretty much movies nowadays. @ant, I forgot what the tiers were called ok? But George came right out and stated TFU is canon. Maaaaybe not the 2nd game, but 1, for sure. I'd link to it If I wasnt on my ipod McJobless 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lair Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 any character from Halo and prove they're more amazing than all the Star Wars characters. How can a character from a shooting game be better than a character from a movie? Most shooters are pretty much movies nowadays. Uh...how? It's just a bunch of mindless shooting things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antillies Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 So, you have to go through so much extended fiction to find one amazing character, while I can pull out any character from Halo and prove they're more amazing than all the Star Wars characters. Your attempts to troll are pointless because ultimately Halo and Star Wars are two very different flavors of science fiction. I appreciate both for their individual qualities but there's no concrete argument you can provide that would change my opinion that the military technology of Star Wars vastly outperforms that of the Halo universe. s0d3rb3rg and Retsnom Kcor 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephyria Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 any character from Halo and prove they're more amazing than all the Star Wars characters. How can a character from a shooting game be better than a character from a movie? Most shooters are pretty much movies nowadays. Uh...how? It's just a bunch of mindless shooting things. Mostly it's lead-you-by-the-hand gameplay. f*** up? Go back maybe 3 seconds. And everything is too goddamn scripted nowadays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McJobless Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 How can a character from a shooting game be better than a character from a movie? Because a movie is 1-3 hours where you simply watch the characters do their thing, so you're at the mercy of the actor's interpretation of the script for the character. It's disconnecting the audience from the plot. A video game requires the player interacts with the video game, and in most cases, take on a characters persona for more than 6 hours. The player can associate with the character and shape them to be who they want them to be, especially with silent characters, which Halo features in all it's campaigns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lair Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 How can a character from a shooting game be better than a character from a movie? Because a movie is 1-3 hours where you simply watch the characters do their thing, so you're at the mercy of the actor's interpretation of the script for the character. It's disconnecting the audience from the plot. A video game requires the player interacts with the video game, and in most cases, take on a characters persona for more than 6 hours. The player can associate with the character and shape them to be who they want them to be, especially with silent characters, which Halo features in all it's campaigns. I didn't say a video game character, I meant a character from a first person shooter game. And a movie doesn't necessarily disconnect you, if it's a good movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antillies Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 @ant, I forgot what the tiers were called ok? But George came right out and stated TFU is canon. Maaaaybe not the 2nd game, but 1, for sure. I'd link to it If I wasnt on my ipod I wasn't berating you for that. I simply react strongly to FU because of my dislike of it. In general, I have issues with secondary canon involving large portions of pure canon. It's canon that IG-88 had taken over the DSII during the Battle of Endor but I don't take that seriously. It's hard to ignore that in terms of story, FU (imho) is far outpaced by most of the books (Thrawn trilogy the best example) and certainly a large portion of the games (X-Wing Alliance, Dark Forces II, etc). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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