LUModder Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Okay, so this is a common problem. It might be the re-release of the game, I don't know. But I found this. It says it was last modified November 2nd, 1999. Then I found this. Why would they use the same JAM file from before? EDIT: I just noticed today was the same day the exe was last modified. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dead_name Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 because the content of the game didn't change. all that changed was some code in the executable to make it support XP better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lair Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Then why is the warp sound different? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dead_name Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Almogzxp Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Is it? Yes, it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lair Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 They also removed the trophies because they were incredibly glitchy, though maybe that can be done through the EXE or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
le717 Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Okay, so this is a common problem. It might be the re-release of the game, I don't know. But I found this. It says it was last modified November 2nd, 1999. Then I found this. Why would they use the same JAM file from before? EDIT: I just noticed today was the same day the exe was last modified. Because, as origamiguy said, they only changed game code, not game assets. I think a better question to ask would be why would they use a new JAM if it is just an XP re-release. Then why is the warp sound different? Is it? Well, yes and no. It's different in the fact it is a lot lower in volume than the original, but that can be changed in code. It is not because it is the exact same SFX. They also removed the trophies because they were incredibly glitchy, though maybe that can be done through the EXE or something. Yes, that can be done through the EXE. Again, the y edited the game source to remove them. See above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lol username Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Well, yes and no. It's different in the fact it is a lot lower in volume than the original, but that can be changed in code. It is not because it is the exact same SFX. You sure? They sound nothing alike to me, and about the same level in volume. Mr. Skeltal and Lair 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Cupcake Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 The 1999 version sounds like a loop of the end bit of the 2001 version... somewhat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lol username Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 The 1999 version sounds like a loop of the end bit of the 2001 version... somewhat. Hm, could be. In that case, perhaps the 1999 game plays the sound effect incorrectly (Alpha Team looping glitch much?), and it was fixed/tweaked in the 2001 version? Lair 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Eight-Three-One Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Yeah, it seems to be a glitch. The N64 version has it the way the 2001 version is. Anybody got a good Windows 9x rig to test it on? I want to know if it's just a modern system incompatibility. lol username 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mumboking Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Yeah, it seems to be a glitch. The N64 version has it the way the 2001 version is. Anybody got a good Windows 9x rig to test it on? I want to know if it's just a modern system incompatibility. I'm thinking that if anyone would have a 9X PC to test on, it would be you: "Vintage Computing Geek". :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LimeKiller Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Hmm. I much prefer the 1999 version. The 2001 version just sounds weird to me, so I would have assumed that was the glitch, although that wouldn't really make sense. I used to have the Playstation 1 version of this game, and I'm relatively sure the warp on there was the 1999 sound. It was so long ago that I can't be for sure though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Eight-Three-One Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Yeah, it seems to be a glitch. The N64 version has it the way the 2001 version is. Anybody got a good Windows 9x rig to test it on? I want to know if it's just a modern system incompatibility. I'm thinking that if anyone would have a 9X PC to test on, it would be you: "Vintage Computing Geek". I want to make a Pentium III rig at some point, but right now I don't really have the money or time for it. The only 9x desktop I have is a 486 with Windows 95, and 486s aren't really suited well for 3D. I have two Pentium laptops, but given the lack of ability to expand a laptop...yeah... (Okay, truth be told, there are docking stations for one that have a PCI and an ISA expansion slot, but good luck finding it cheap) Oh, and on top of all of this, I don't even have the 1999 version :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
le717 Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Yeah, it seems to be a glitch. The N64 version has it the way the 2001 version is. Anybody got a good Windows 9x rig to test it on? I want to know if it's just a modern system incompatibility. I'm thinking that if anyone would have a 9X PC to test on, it would be you: "Vintage Computing Geek". I have the 1999 version, and a Win98SE VM (running in MS VPC 2007 SP1), but the OS installation is so broken, it keeps asking for DLL files it was supposed to copy over, and I can't even get it out of 480p. If I could fix it, I would be using it so much more... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JrMasterModelBuilder Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Yeah, it seems to be a glitch. The N64 version has it the way the 2001 version is. Anybody got a good Windows 9x rig to test it on? I want to know if it's just a modern system incompatibility. I'm thinking that if anyone would have a 9X PC to test on, it would be you: "Vintage Computing Geek". I have the 1999 version, and a Win98SE VM (running in MS VPC 2007 SP1), but the OS installation is so broken, it keeps asking for DLL files it was supposed to copy over, and I can't even get it out of 480p. If I could fix it, I would be using it so much more... VirtualBox? I sort-of have a working Windows 98 VM in VBox, there aren't really any good ways to virtualize Windows 98 though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Eight-Three-One Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 Don't even bother with virtualization, I have yet to find VM software that supports 3D acceleration under Windows 9x. LR does run without it, but it's glitchy and crashes very easily. There are custom builds of DOSBox that support it, but until DOSBox can get any decent support for 9x, you probably won't have much luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LimeKiller Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 There are some games that work well in virtual machines - well enough, anyway - but Lego Racers is not one of those games. I've gotten it to run in VMWare Player, but with major graphical defects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Eight-Three-One Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 *sigh* It's not as simple as putting the game in and expecting it to work. The game looks like that when there is no 3D acceleration -- it attempts to use software instead of hardware acceleration, and screws up royally. VMware has zero support for Direct3D acceleration on Windows 9x. Besides the graphical defects though, it also crashes pretty easily, oftentimes less than half a minute into the race. Unfortunately the only reliable way to test it properly is to find an old computer that has a 3D accelerator like the Voodoo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LimeKiller Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 I wouldn't know, I mostly use Virtual Machines to play old games that don't even use 3D, like Myst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oboe Shoes Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Something worth noting: If you pause the game immediatley after the warp sound effect starts in the 1999 version, it makes a sound similar to the 2001 version while paused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legoracerlover Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 how do you get the new version cause i have the old one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mumboking Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 how do you get the new version cause i have the old one. The legal way is to buy it. Not sure why you'd want the 2001 version though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
le717 Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 how do you get the new version cause i have the old one. The legal way is to buy it. Not sure why you'd want the 2001 version though. Yea, the 1999 version is so much better. Of course, if you want to have car handling issues, no trophies, having to compress a JAM for every mod and a lack of copy protection, be my guest and get the 2001 one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mumboking Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 and a lack of copy protection*cough*Use unSafedisc*cough* :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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