emily Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 Merry Christmas, everyone! I wanted to put up the English and original German versions at the same time, but you've waited long enough at this point, I think. Page 1 Page 2 Page 3 Page 4 Page 5 Page 6 Page 7 Page 8 Page 9 Page 10 Page 11 Page 12 aidenpons, lol username, Sadie Meowsalot and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lol username Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 Planet Aurum, eh? Assuming that is actually the name of the planet and I'm not misinterpreting the German, I haven't heard of that before. And is that the Black Knight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emily Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 Planet Aurum, eh? Assuming that is actually the name of the planet and I'm not misinterpreting the German, I haven't heard of that before. And is that the Black Knight? Yep, Aurum and the Black Knight. The Exploriens are a research mining team that uncovers gold in this story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aidenpons Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Planet Aurum, eh? Aurum is direct Latin for "Golden" (or maybe Gold), if that clears anything up. emily 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sadie Meowsalot Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 Apparently there was a colourist before Jesper: "I only knew Bjarne Hansen. He was the colorist before me. Kim had all the correspondence"-Jesper Ejsing emily 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emily Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 For your reading pleasure: Page 1 Page 2 Page 3 Page 4 Page 5 Page 6 Page 7 Page 8 Page 9 Page 10 Page 11 Page 12 Full Brickshelf gallery is here, when public. Fushi, it'd be awesome if you could add these to your album for easier viewing. It probably goes without saying, but I'll be editing together English versions of the other 1996 comics once Sadie is able to procure them. And while I'm thinking of it, any chance we could get this topic renamed to something more appropriate? We've got a lot more going on now than just a German Rock Raiders comic. lol username, PeabodySam, Sadie Meowsalot and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lol username Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Thanks. You missed a bubble on page 8 though. I've edited the topic title. Might be nice to put a summary of all this in the OP, too, as this topic is 20+ pages long now... What should that summary contain? emily 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emily Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Well of course I missed a bubble! It's a tradition at this point. Should be fixed now. A link to a gallery of the comics would be good for the OP (Fushi's probably, though it doesn't have the Prinzenrolle comic at this point), maybe a quick paragraph on what we know of the comic's background as well. It'd be nice to see the original first post preserved as well, for posterity's sake. aidenpons 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lol username Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Yeah, that's the obvious stuff... I was basically just hoping for somebody to summarize the comic's history for me, as I don't know all of it with 100% certainty off the top of my head and there's 21 pages to go through. I'll dig through and assemble everything. Not like I have much else going on tonight. aidenpons and emily 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fush Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 Fushi, it'd be awesome if you could add these to your album for easier viewing. I'm on it! ...but I'm not sure where to put them, in relation to the rest of the pages. Is this even within the main comic's continuity, or is it it's own separate thing? I guess I could stick it at the beginning, or at the end. I can put a link in the description to skip right to the start of this comic, but unfortunately I can't do any kind of formatting in the description, so far as I can tell. BTW I guess I should probably update the description anyway with more detailed/accurate/updated information, not to mention it's worded a bit awkwardly. ALSO: Holy s*** is that Spyrius? I completely forgot that was even a thing. Wow. emily 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emily Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 I'm on it! ...but I'm not sure where to put them, in relation to the rest of the pages. Is this even within the main comic's continuity, or is it it's own separate thing? I guess I could stick it at the beginning, or at the end. I can put a link in the description to skip right to the start of this comic, but unfortunately I can't do any kind of formatting in the description, so far as I can tell. BTW I guess I should probably update the description anyway with more detailed/accurate/updated information, not to mention it's worded a bit awkwardly. ALSO: Holy s*** is that Spyrius? I completely forgot that was even a thing. Wow. I'd put it at the beginning. Until we see more of the normal 1996 comics it is hard to say if this fits into the main comic continuity. It is quite possible it won't, but I personally would still sort it with the other 1996 comics since it was made at the same time and features the same LEGO themes. That's more of a personal preference thing, though, so by all means do what makes the most sense to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fush Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 Done. Prinzenrolle comic added to album, and description has been completely re-wrote. Let me know if it sounds okay, I considered going more in-depth about the history behind the comics but I realised I didn't have a good enough grasp on the situation to do so, so I just kept to the basics. emily and aidenpons 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sadie Meowsalot Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 Thomas Warming (illustrator for the Time Cruisers boardgame) sent me some things recently. Among them are some sketches for some of the boardgame cards, and some conceptual drawings of a LEGO restaurant he designed. Time Cruisers boardgame card sketches: LEGO Palace Restaurant: "I also did a lot of concept development for lego in the 1990's for Lego Futura. All the work I did for lego was through a danish advertising agency called Courage except for the concept work, which was direct. I also did concept design but that was done in a lego-look meaning cars and stuff but they wanted me to draw it so it looked like real cars and not lego - that way they could focus on elements they liked and try to convert that into the lego-look so all that stuff is not really lego work unless you know. Sadly back in the day all original material was owned by the agency or Lego and not the artist."-Thomas Warming PeabodySam, lol username, Ben24x7 and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sadie Meowsalot Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 (edited) I found a couple Klick magazine advertisements in a French catalog hereUnfortunately they're not legible as far as I can tell, and there's a watermark over them, so someone would have to buy the catalog to properly scan them. Edited June 30, 2015 by Sadie Meowsalot aidenpons and emily 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sadie Meowsalot Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 (edited) I've been corresponding lately with Annemette Allerup (Copywriter for Klick and World Club magazine), and she recently sent me this email with lots of detailed information on the origin, history, and development of the publications: "A trip down Memory Lane: Unfortunately, I just moved and on that occasion threw out my stack of LEGO magazines but they must have them in the advertising department in Billund, DK. They – under the leadership of Ole Primdahl – gave me the assignment. You may get thru to Mads Nipper? Originally it was an assignment for testing in Switzerland in the 80s. Because LEGO had realized that there was a decline of interest in LEGO bricks with a great number of kids (boys mainly at that time) once they turned 6 or 7, started school and other activities, they wanted to create a kids’ magazine with some of the same educational values as LEGO – a magazine that indirectly should support the different LEGO universes. This became the KLICK magazine which was marketed in Switzerland for a few years. KLICK had stories about visiting a space centre in the US, about going on a boat ride (not many boat rides in Switzerland), about aeroplanes, cars and other things from real life that indirectly related to LEGO universes of that time. We also had a small cartoon, I don’t remember the name, and a relative small part of promotion for new LEGO products. KLICK was well received and tested fine but due to wrong marketing it never became the magazine success LEGO had hoped for. They both asked for subscriptions and handed out free issues at events so naturally they did not reach the number of paying subscribers they had anticipated. The project was closed after I don’t remember how long, maybe 2 yrs. 4-5 years later however, a marketing man revived the idea of having a magazine that could keep the 6-8 yr old boys interested in their LEGO, get the bricks clicking for a longer time in the kids’ rooms, make LEGO stay on the wishing list for Christmas and birthdays.This time the project started in Austria and again, was intensely tested before launch. The editorial concept this time was far more clearly focused on LEGO – the magazine was initially named LEGO Explorers – for curious and creative LEGO fans, and it brought storytelling about seasonal LEGO launches as well as some educational background stories about i.e. ancient Egypt, the Middle Ages, Underwater exploring etc. clearly linking to the different LEGO products. Tim Timebuster was developed in the first part of this project – later developed into Time Cruisers. The idea was to be able to jump from one LEGO universe to the next – suitable to the season’s launches og different products. Tim and the story was developed by me and Kim Hagen. There was also room for local promotions and copromotions – and for puzzles and riddles. This intensified as the project was extended to more countries firstly Switzerland and France, later Germany. The magazine was issued in different languages – makes a great difference for the puzzles and riddles – and for the organization of local promotions and copromotions. The Austrian magazine was tested with regular intervals – group interviews with kids were done to adjust (rather few) editorial mistakes. Same procedure was carried out in the French speaking countries Switzerland and France – some local differences resulted in local adjustments. But then Germany wanted to launch a proper club project and the magazine became front runner of the LEGO World Club project which enhanced also visits to LEGOLAND Germany and a number of direct selling and merchandising activities. Again intensive research was carried out regularly – and all showed that receiving and reading the magazine stimulated playing with own bricks and wishing new ones immensely. At that time we made a great effort to tell background stories about the popular film universes that LEGO developed products related to – for instance Harry Potter. Thus again activating interest in getting the bricks out again with popular startersMed venlig hilsen The Club Magazine also was adapted by several other countries – amongst others in the Far East – so I’ve seen it in a Korean version! Rather funny! I believe we reached printing in a number of 13 countries. LEGO World Wide however, had a wide range of other magazine and club projects so around yr 2000 or so, it was decided to collect them all in one organization in the US. I don’t know whether this is still the case? Ole Primdahl has moved to the US, I believe he’s retired, but I’m sure he can help you further. Feel free to get back to me Annemette" Edited July 10, 2015 by Sadie Meowsalot lol username, aidenpons, Lair and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emily Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 Fascinating stuff. If Klick Austria was a 1994/5 debut, then the Switzerland one would be somewhere around '89/'90... I wonder what the comic could've been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aidenpons Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 (edited) to adjust (rather few) editorial mistakes You've big shoes to fill, Pereki .. and I think Lego Club did a better job at marketing, at the least EDIT: STUPID EDITOR Edited July 13, 2015 by aidenpons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sadie Meowsalot Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 (edited) I posed some more specific queries to Annemette earlier which she responded to a bit ago: "Kim Hagen told me earlier that the TimeBuster concept was based on a huge TimeBuster car build which came either from LEGO or Courage. I'll ask you some follow-up questions now. 1) I've been wondering, was it LEGO or Courage the TimeBuster car build came from? 2) Would you be able to tell me how the TimeBuster concept originated and when/where it was first conceived?3) Do you know if Max Timebuster of the 1994-1996 Klick TimeBuster series has any connection to the other Max Timebuster, the time-travelling criminal primarily featured within the Town theme who first appeared around 1993 and is featured within various catalogs and commercials?3a) If not, do you know how the other Max Timebuster came about?4) Was the later Time Cruisers LEGO theme directly inspired by the earlier TimeBuster series?"-Sadie Her response: "1&2. The Timebuster car was one LEGO had received from a keen buileder and big fan – Ole Primdahl showed it to me and we decided to use it for a cartoon in the magazine because it made it possible to travel from one LEGO universe to another in an exciting way. It also supported the idea of combining bricks from different universes. Together we described the opportunities of the concept, but the character and cartoon was creatively developed in cooperation with Kim Hagen whom I had hired for a free lance artist for the magazines. And over the years we published the cartoon, it developed a bit.3&4. I believe it was our Max Timebuster that inspired the other one But I’m not sure – it’s a US matter I believe Time Cruisers as a theme was definitely inspired by the good response from the cartoon in the magazines. I’m not 100% sure of all this. I believe you should get ahold of Ole Primdahl. He was with LEGO for many, many years and in charge of everything with the international magazines until they were all united in the US setup in the late nineties.I believe he’s on holiday just now but he’s moved to the States, is retired but definitely not forgetful. I got contact with him thru Facebook."-Annemette Edited July 17, 2015 by Sadie Meowsalot Quisoves Potoo, lol username, aidenpons and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emily Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 Nice! The comic inspired the theme, confirmed confirmed. And apparently it all started with some random guy who wanted to show his cool creation to LEGO. Old LEGO company was just the best. aidenpons 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aidenpons Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 Nice! The comic inspired the theme, confirmed confirmed. And apparently it all started with some random guy who wanted to show his cool creation to LEGO. Old LEGO company was just the best. *looks at the Lego Club: Cool Creations* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emily Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 (edited) Hey thread! It's been a few months. Almost half a year, actually. But good stuff is happening! I happened on some 1995-96 issues of Klick being sold on an Austrian classifieds site. Got in touch with the lady who listed them, sent over some Euros and now they should be coming to me in the mail. Unless the same disaster as last time befalls us, this will be our first look at the original run of the Time Cruisers comic, which we know had at least a slightly different, possibly more story-oriented approach than the 97-onward issues we have. The change was done because the comic kept getting added to new countries where new kids couldn't be left confused. But in the time these issues come from, the comic was only in Austria (or at least, that should be the case). Also some of these will definitely predate the launch of the Time Cruisers theme. Fun stuff! I also came across this, which (incredibly bizarrely) appears to be a complete backup of the Austrian LEGO website in 1997. Edited November 29, 2015 by Pereki lol username, Sadie Meowsalot, Lind Whisperer and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalonCard Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 That's GREAT news. Can't wait to see what this yields. TC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aidenpons Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 if yes We've been trouving the whole internet for Time Cruisers (Why did I type "Time Raiders?" ) related stuff and now you come up with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emily Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Appreciate the offer, JHUYSER, but the board game is pretty well documented on the internet already. Its mostly these comics that are hard to track down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aidenpons Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Appreciate the offer, JHUYSER, but the board game is pretty well documented on the internet already. Its mostly these comics that are hard to track down. Oh it is? We have something we can actually look at with relative ease? That's surprising... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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