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Series 16 time!

I found a photo of those babies in the wild (this one I think) and took solace in assuming that they were probably just missing their clothes because the collector who took the picture didn't have them. So thanks for shattering my only line of defense

I think it's worth noting they're very different games that were trying to do very different things. Very intentionally, I might add - here's a quote from ATD's old website: When this subject has come up before, the results seem to come down to which sort of games each individual prefers. I got them both at the same point in a 2-pack in 2008 thanks to TT's 2007 re-release, so I don't have any nostalgia for one over the other - not much nostalgia for either of them, really. I played through them at the same time, alternating between them each play session, as well. LR1 is a typical 90s kart racer except you can build your own cars and characters. Due to how LEGO structured theme/faction releases back then, they had tons of source material to work with, so there was a lot of variety in the tracks even though it only used four themes (Pirates, Adventurers, Castle, Space). And that's really all it was - I don't say that negatively, it was just very focused on being what it was. You built cars, raced three laps around colorful themed tracks, unlocked more stuff if you did well, and continued until you beat the game. Plus there were time trials for an extra challenge and unlocks. The cheat codes and hidden shortcuts were pretty fun too. Plenty of freedom in character and car building. Music was obnoxious but fittingly video game-y. LR2 tried to be a lot more in terms of scope, beyond just "race lego cars around tracks". By that point LEGO had shifted into their current theme model; factions were out, single themes were in. I don't know how much that had to do with the resulting design of the game, but regardless, the direction LR2 took was to completely map out each theme/world into a full place you could explore. And given my tastes, that's a major plus. Collectibles, exploration, characters to talk to, hidden minigames to find, or just cool stuff to see in the world - I greatly enjoyed it. It felt a lot more alive than LR1's sterile "racetracks with themed wallpaper". They also took a lot more freedom with some of the boss races - I loved the race against Riegel's mech. Customization was mixed; the car builder I found much, much more interesting (what with the addition of hovercraft, treaded vehicles, skiing vehicles, etc) but the minifigure customization was far too limited. Music was mostly forgettable. The car destruction system and powerups were a lot of fun - I found knocking out an opponent's car much more satisfying than what LR1's powerups were capable of. It also enabled the addition of the multiplayer battle mode, which I also had fun with. As I generally gravitate most towards games that have places to explore and things to find, I ended up enjoying LR2 the most as I played through both games. If you want more of a tight racing gamey video game, LR1 excels in that regard. If you go for the question of "which game did a better job of being what it wanted to be", instead of "which did you enjoy more", I'd say LR1. It was laser focused and did what it wanted to well. LR2 could have definitely been executed in a much better way, but it was still good enough at what it was trying to do for me to enjoy it. Also - both games have severe exploits that greatly reduce their difficulty - the realization that you only really need (and can exploit the hell out of) green powerups in LR1, and engine car upgrades in LR2. Both had some super weird physics quirks too - LR1's idea of powersliding was bizarre, but at least consistently bizarre, while LR2's handling varied a lot between chassis. So I'm gonna call them equally flawed in those regards.

yes it does install on a 4GB hard drive... if you have starter edition and you're very careful. Three motherboards ago, I had a rig that'd support up to 8GB... but only if it was 2 4GB sticks or four 2GB sticks. 8GB sticks wouldn't be recognized. It was due to the chipset used.

http://lego.wikia.com/wiki/Halvautomatisk_Leget%C3%B6jspistol Just link this whenever someone says lego is too violent today

I know I might have contributed by defending that castle set and LEGO Hockey, but I wouldn't say the topic isn't working out. It's cool to learn about sets like that lone red brick, or even that lazy castle set; it's just also interesting to hear if people found something good in them anyway. Take Pereki's voodoo head comment: it's a creative way to look at a generally-bad set that might not have been mentioned otherwise, and it also doesn't mean the Hockey sets can't be mocked regardless. I think if everyone just goes in with that mindframe, it can still be a fun topic. Also, how has nobody posted any of those BIONICLE promos yet?

This will be my last post since the topic doesn't seem to be working out. Who wants cola?

There are things I like and dislike about both games. LEGO Racers 1 Pros: Features a nice variety of 90's themes Unique powerup system Decent character/car customization Easy controls Drivers can be edited during any point in the game Cons: Absence of other 90's themes (i.e. aquazone, wild west, ninja) Most songs are 30-40 second loops. Your only actual competition is the circuit host Warp turbo makes races way too fast and easy Circuits 4-6 are just mirrored tracks in reverse order. LEGO Racers 2 Pros: Stunning environments Awesome soundtrack Races are longer, somewhat challenging Bonus games World bosses Each track is unique Story-based Cons: Less interesting themes Awful controls Upgrades leave opponents far behind Very limited character/car customization Final race is disappointing The game doesn't connect well with its predecessor in terms of gameplay

Lego spoilers and Rogue One spoilers in the same package! http://i.imgur.com/MFuTAvh.png I don't know who roboman is, but he's real unique and cool looking. Others are pretty par for the course I think.

Also re: Aaron's post, some of those don't actually look so bad. I'd love to have a small set nowadays where you could get a chrome crown/sword, a horse, a decent enemy, and even some fairly-useful bricks for a castle wall. I mean, yes, it's embarrassing in terms of design, but it'd be a nice parts pack. As for the hockey guys, I never owned the ones you displayed, but I pick up 3557-3559 at a clearance, and they were honestly pretty fun. LEGO Hockey wasn't all bad.

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Hi everyone! I recently finished reviewing LEGO Stunt Rally and Drome Racers on my Forgotten Games show. Any feedback you all may have is welcomed. Thanks! I also referenced and showcased the manual steering and de-spawning mods in LEGO Stunt Rally.